Monday, September 27, 2021

HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S JUST AN AFFAIR or IF YOU'RE A MISTRESS?

QUESTION FOR MISSY

How do you know if you're just having an affair or are a person's Mistress?

Shannon

Fort Lauderdale

ANSWER FROM MISSY

Some affairs do become "more."

Most don't.

It might be easier to say what's not. A hook up. Friends With Benefits. A one nighter. These experiences are not worthy of being called affairs. 

An affair can be sexual or seem to be all about sex, for a while, but it needs more involvement to stay interesting and evolve into a relationship. More romance certainly. It should be a love affair. A connection of intellect, or hearts, or something such as a strong interest in a mutual endeavor in addition to attraction. Generally this means at least a couple months of consistently seeing each other and having a variety of experiences together in which to get to know each other. A year would be better. This is true of any budding relationship.

My advice to women is to try to get to know a person better before having an affair, to not get into a pattern of always meeting up for sex and not going out. 

But that becomes more complicated if one or both people are living with someone else already. Being a Mistress does not require adultery or sneaking, and the supposed thrill of sneaking is overrated. Anxiety or fear of embarrassment is more like it. However, if someone has a commitment and they can't keep it, they need to figure out what's next for them.

Being a Mistress doesn't always require that the richer person totally support the poorer one, sometimes it does. Rather the endurance of a relationship because first of all it has become a relationship, is key.

Wishing for the relationship to endure, the couple must come to an understanding and agreement on how they intend to stay in each other's lives.

Such agreements or arrangements are sometimes evidence based rather than spoken or negotiated. If one or both has previously partnered and has a commitment, which they can no longer honor, they need to renegotiate that. (It's only fair that the partner gets to decide if they want to stay or go. The indecision can be troubling and might require therapy.)

Some Mistresses are like second wives. Some hope to be and get to be only wives. However, it is my suspicion that some wives want their husbands to have a Mistress, rather than he sleep around. Some wives accept, are knowledgeable, or even become somewhat friendly with her husband's Mistress. There's a lot of man sharing happening. Know why? Because men who are shared have something to offer more than one woman.

It could be said in some cases the Mistress preserves the man's marriage to his wife. So much depends on the expectations and how someone sees life. Temperaments and personalities. Also the time of life one is in.

A person might not want a full time relationship any more.

So, a woman cannot be shy about stating what it is she wants and needs with a man. This means taking a risk. It doesn't mean demanding. 

Missy









Wednesday, September 22, 2021

FEE FII FOE FUM - WHAT'S IT LIKE TODAY TO DATE A BRITISH MAN? MISSY SPEAKS ON WHAT SHE THINKS OF BRITISH DATING RULES

Maybe we'll have to rely on some stereotypes here, especially because both Great Britain and the United States are ethnically diverse. I think that means culturally diverse and then there are class issues to consider. However, after reading around the subject I think I can give you 21st Century Foxes a few clues!

British men will seem more reserved than American men, more mannered and formal in general. They are less likely to get too touchy feely when you dance slowly with them. You may need to tone down your exuberance though because all your enthusiasm can come off as trying too hard and even fake. (I'm a little suspicious of over exuberance myself.)

Which leads to that more alcohol is consumed. Expect you'll both have at least one drink on a date. It's used to bust through the formality and without it he may not warm up and tell you how he feels. (Careful though because alcoholism isn't easy to overcome.)

British men are more concerned with grooming and might more often fall into the MetroSexual category in your way of thinking, with men in Britain making more effort with their hair and nails and, reportedly, even plucking their brows. (Cool! if to get rid of the bushy haywire but not so if too pencil thin.) British men are more likely to be clean, neat, and smell good. (What's that aftershave you're wearing?)

He doesn't think he needs his parent's approval. (But if he's young, never married, and rich, he will want them to like you, believe me.)

If he asks you out, he doesn't want to be friends. You might want to meet him for coffee or lunch just to check him out but he wants to go out at night. If you want to check him out attempt to go out in groups or do group activities to check him out. (I'm all for the afternoon dates and slow to get to know you so this would be difficult for me.)

If it helps you any, if you go out with him twice he thinks you're his girlfriend. That can quickly get complicated because he may think you keeping your options open is actually "cheating!" (I don't like this at all!)

Dates can be No Big Deal activities. Don't expect the limo ride to an expensive restaurant any time soon. Unfortunately sex can also be No Big Deal.  (I'm good with the first and not at all good with the last.)

You need to be introduced (and on-line meeting can usually suffice) as they are not going to approach you, a stranger, in public, just because you happen to see each other out  somewhere. (Luckily, with such good manners, being out with your mutual friend, you will be.)

Don't go down a list of questions in order to quickly profile or "know" another person. It's rude.(I agree!)

A confusion of expectations since Old Fashioned gender roles are desirable yet British men want to "Go Dutch" and split the costs of the dates?! (This one is crazy making to me. I think whomever asks the other person on a date should plan it and pay for it. I would not recognize the plan as a date.  I pay for my self when out with friends.)

More forgiveness if your date doesn't go so well. Loose the car in the carpark? Drink a little too much and throw up? I have no idea just how far forgiveness can go. (If it's being kind hearted and less demanding because we're all human, Great. Unfortunately, I've ignored too many red flags in my life.)

Interesting conservationists and well read?!  Yes!



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Monday, September 20, 2021

THE DUCHESS : A FILM ABOUT GEORGIANA SPENCER CAVENDISH, DUCHESS OF DEVONSHIRE : MISTRESS MANIFESTO FILM REVIEW

Based on a book I did not read by author Amanda Foreman, the film is stated to be historically correct. It features actor Ralph Fiennes, as a difficult and demanding Duke who is entitled and sexist and not much interested in his wife, other than her reproductive ability and his need for an heir, and Keira Knightley as Georgiana Spencer, a young noble woman whose mother insists she marry for prestige and money while still a teenager. She did and became the wife of William Cavendish, 5th Duke of Devonshire and mothered the 6th Duke. The real Georgiana lived from 1757 to 1806 and while her marriage was hell, she made a mark on society due to her beauty and personality, her social acumen, and her gambling habit. Blessed with charisma that just about everyone but her husband got, the Duchess decided to allow a young woman, Bess Foster, who her husband could love, into their home and so this marital arrangement sufficed, while reportedly she also had some love affairs herself. It is suggested that the young woman, a penniless mother who had left her own marriage, may have been bisexual or at least given Georgiana some lessons in how to enjoy pleasure but more likely the two women man shared. 

It was a relief for Georgianna, who comes from a different branch of the Spencer family that Lady Diana Spencer came from and seems to have been brutalized emotionally by her husband.  The scene in which the married couple come to terms with their mutual unhappiness is the only one in which the Duke seems to have some empathy. As a result, I cannot call the relationship these three people had a Love Triangle for there was no love lost for Georgiana. It's the kind of film that reinforces a woman's feminism, knowing that no one should be forced into a marriage or forced to stay in one that is this horrible.

Link to a lecture by author Amanda Forman about Georgiana on YouTube. Awfully good. Georgiana had affairs with women after realizing that her husband didn't like or love her.
Bess Foster was, according to Forman, a fake - a person who would make herself pleasing to one person at a time by studying them. Bess had an affair with both of them for about a year and during that year Georgiana finally became pregnant - as did Bess - both with the Duke's child.


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Saturday, September 18, 2021

ABOUT SIR JOHN BETJEMAN THE POET - WHAT DID SHE SEE IN HIM? AND WHAT DID HE HAVE IN HER?

While Lady Elizabeth Cavendish said nothing about her relationship with Sir John Betjeman, he was, before his recognition and as a poet laureate from 1972 until his death, a public figure. To clarify, a poet laureate is defined as a poet appointed for life as a member of the British royal household or one who honorarily represents a particular country. He was extremely popular. The honor came from Queen Elizabeth II. Born in 1906 he was not a young man when he was given this honor.

An only child who was a bit alone and didn't enjoy sports, he recognized poetry as his profession young and hated school as a boy. College at Oxford turned out to be much better as at least there were some literary people there he could relate to. He left there in 1928 without a degree but within a few years he published his first book of poetry.

POETRY FOUNDATION - John Betjeman

INTERESTING LITERATURE ; 10 GREAT BETJEMAN POEMS EVERYONE SHOULD READ

He was introduced on a country weekend to Penelope, his wife, who was from an upper class family that thought she could do better. He was considered to be a middle class man of Dutch heritage, not their kind.

World War II he, his wife, and his first child went to Ireland as an attaché to represent Britain. At one point the IRA wanted to assassinate him. It didn't help that being from a Dutch heritage he was at time taunted that he was the enemy - a German. He was suspected of being a spy.

He loved architecture, especially churches. He became known for architectural preservation of London churches. He was Knighted in 1969.

Betjemen had a sense of humor as well as the keen observer's view point. A number of thematic films for television were made that were popular among the British. These films were designed to showcase a series of poems. As someone who observed and commented on ordinary life, it's my idea that people from all walks of life could relate to his work.

In a YouTube video, called The Real John Betjeman, a documentary of 45 minutes or so, various people who knew the man give their opinions on what he was up to with a wife and mistress. I was glad to find this video which includes a bit about Lady Elizabeth Cavendish.

YOUTUBE VIDEO : THE REAL JOHN BETJEMEN Poster is Aaron Marchant - Poetry and Verse. Source is UK Channel 4 and it appeared in 2000. 

It's suggested that the big crisis in his marriage was when Penelope converted to Roman Catholicism while he remained Anglican. It's suggested that the couple loved each other but were incompatible. (It's not lost on me that Catholics were not to be divorced but Anglicans were able and that he wrote poetry about churches and was involved in preserving some. Am I the only one who sees her move as a Big Rebellion against her husband?)  At around 33 minutes into this documentary, an "expert" who is not identified says "What John needed was a sort of a Victorian wife who would minister to him - almost a nursemaid."  Another expert says he thinks it would have been impossible for him to go on if he had not met Lady Elizabeth!  He says John and Elizabeth always lived in separate houses and that was the arrangement. (Yes there are some photos of her and the two together.) So at least there was an acknowledgement of her, unlike many an obituary; even the New York Times focused on the poetry and avoided his personal life.


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Wednesday, September 15, 2021

THE ROLE OF A LADY IN WAITING




 WHAT DOES A  "LADY IN WAITING" ACTUALLY DO?

The answer may be "everything." Sometimes called a "maid" I can't promise you if you get a job/role being a Lady In Waiting you won't do some house work, but a Personal Assistant is more like it. Except the at the women who do this work don't get paid.  They are usually from rich families or in rich marriages and of the nobility themselves and don't "need" to work for pay. It's an honor and a tradition. So is paying what's called "room and board" or for travel expenses. Usually a Queen or a Princess (at least the ones who are working) has several. Some of these women travel with the Woman of higher rank or perform certain functions such as attending to public duties while others might be on what's called "a two week rotation" followed by four weeks off, so it's part-time, yet not too flexible. Sure there are perks. Seeing close up the work of the Queen or traveling the world with a Princess can mean seeing history in the making or watching a marriage fall apart.

According to an article in Women and Home, entitled "Who is the Queen's Trusted Lady-In-Waiting And What Exactly Does She Do?" by Laura Harmon, published in April of this year, the Queen, Elizabeth II, has had a trusted Lady-In-Waiting by her side for decades and this woman even attended the funeral of Prince Phillip, the Queen's husband, with the Queen. (We all know how restricted the attendance was for that event.) Her name is Lady Susan Hussey, a Baroness, who first came into the Queen's employ about the time Prince Andrew was born and the Queen needed someone to do the secretarial duty of making out Thank You notes. Lady Susan was made a Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order in 2013 and this is the highest rank personally granted by the sovereign. Just as our Mistress of the Month, Lady Elizabeth Georgiana Alice Cavendish was, for her work for Princess Margaret.

According to Cheatsheet.com, an article called "The Surprising Duties of Royal Family Ladies in Waiting", by Milla Henson, published in May of this year, The Mistress of Robes takes care of the Queens wardrobe - including what tiara she might wear, while the Mistress of the Bedchamber is the Queens Best friend, because she helps her dress, undress, bathe, and get ready for bed. Since the women who work at Waiting are considered friends and worthy of trust, they never retire.

How many of you would like to try this line of work?


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Monday, September 13, 2021

SIR JOHN NOT QUITE A CHARACTER IN NETFLIX's THE CROWN

Just a note.  I was rewatching The Crown, which is an excellent series about the British Royal Family.  I know it cannot be "accurate" and must be considered fiction based on much of what is known about the Royal Family, but if you haven't seen it, well, try to. Excellent production values.  Historical content. Terrific acting. Truly an achievement for all involved.

In Season Two, Episode Four, which is about Princess Margaret's introduction to the photographer Antony Armstrong-Jones through a Lady In Waiting, she is invited to a dinner party attended by "unconventional" people.  Margaret has had a tough love life thus far, being unable to marry her first true love because he was a divorced man. She is starting to go nutty and so, to help her get out of the house (the castle) she attends this dinner party.

She notes that the poet John Betjeman is at the party.  She says, "Is it true he has two wives?"  and Armstrong-Jones says, "Better he has three."

Ever since I saw that, I've been wondering - WHO WAS THE POSSIBLE THIRD WIFE OF POET SIR JOHN BETJEMAN?  If you know, please leave a comment!


Saturday, September 11, 2021

SECRECY, PRIVACY, DISCRETION




SECRECY
, PRIVACY, and DISCRETION
: these are three words that almost seem extinct at times because of social networking. People are putting themselves out there inviting the world to know them, their relationships, everything. So it may surprise you to know that there are many people who still think their lives are nobody's business but their own. They don't invite commentary or speculation and tend not to respond to being outed. You won't find them revealing their personal life on the Internet. If they are famous due to their wealth or position they understand that there is curiosity about them but tend to have as friends, lovers, and family, others who agree to keep their privacy. It is for everyone's benefit because too much can be made of the smallest slip up.***

Such was the case with Lady Elizabeth Georgiana Alice Cavendish.  She refused to speak of her relationship with John Betjeman, who became famous as Poet Laurate and Sir John Betjeman. As a Lady In Waiting to Princess Margaret, Queen Elizabeth's sister, she was privileged to serve and never commented on the Princess's life, which was a rather dramatic life while the Princess was alive.

After Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowden, died in 2002 at the relatively young age of seventy-one, Lady Elizabeth asked permission of the Queen to speak to the press about Margaret. And then her commentary was simple and repeated by numerous news services. She said Margaret had been in a great deal of pain towards the end. Margaret, like her father who died of lung cancer, was a heavy smoker who had a lung removed years earlier and reportedly had been declining in health for the previous 20 years. It was as if Lady Elizabeth said what was apparent.

For all her access to the elite circles and nobility in Great Britain, Lady Elizabeth was barely photographed for the purposes of the media, and especially not with Sir John. Further, she refused to cooperate with those who wished to write a biography of him - not even his daughter.  According to Sebastian Shakespeare, the author of a Daily Mail UK article previously linked to, all her correspondence with the poet was given as she wanted it to The Chatsworth House Trust, this being a house she grew up in. According to The Telegraph. co.uk in an article that appeared in September of 2018, it was also her will that these letters remain private and not be given over for use until the year 2034!

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*** As a note, there are situations that we should NOT keep secret, such as when there is abuse taking place. Use your wisdom.

Wednesday, September 8, 2021

CATHERINE JAMES - BOB DYLAN - and the RECENT ACCUSATIONS AGAINST HIM

DAILY MAIL - CATHERINE JAMES / BOB DYLAN 2007 MEMOIR  link to the article


Taking a pause here to address the accusations that Bob Dylan had an inappropriate sexual relationship long ago.  If he did it was not with Catherine James.

I saw the article linked above in Daily Mail - a British publication that has an Online presence.  Although I included CATHERINE JAMES in my month about GROUPIES,  I felt that it was also not appropriate for the Daily Mail to link Catherine James in this article - to even bring her up - in order to float more speculation against BOB DYLAN, who is included here because of his long relationship with RUTH TRYANGIEL, to whom he was required to provide a financial settlement.

I read Catherine James' memoir years back before including her in that month's GROUPIES feature, and basically, she never said that Bob was anything but honorable. Catherine James had a hard life, beginning with a cruel narcissist mother, one she had to survive.  As many teenagers did, she headed for what excited her, the burgeoning rock and roll scene in what is now West Hollywood - the Sunset strip.

Her depiction of Bob Dylan was of him being kind, almost big brotherly, and driving her home - and home was an orphanage. James became a groupie and admits to having sexual relationships with a number of rock stars.  Bob wasn't one of them, even if she had him up on the pedestal.

I have to say his. There is a difference between a 14 year old teenager being forced into an arranged marriage or anyone being forced into sex slavery,  or a 14 year old being molested by a step father or teacher, and the choice some young women made, though often this was unknown to their parent or parents, to be groupies.  The world had just started being a different place when contraception, significantly The Pill, became available, and part of what was Women's Liberation was sexual liberation.



CATHERINE JAMES : DANDELION : MISTRESS MANIFESTO BOOK REVIEW  appeared here at Mistress Manifesto in October 2016, which was the month I featured some of the best known Groupies.

Tuesday, September 7, 2021

Saturday, September 4, 2021

LADY ELIZABETH CAVENDISH AND HER SERVICE TO PRINCESS MARGARET


According to multiple obituaries in newspapers (and on the Internet) it may be that Lady Elizabeth Georgiana Alice Cavendish was the person to introduce Princess Margaret to her husband Antony Armstrong Jones, who was to be ennobled with the name First Lord Snowden. Snowden would divorce Princess Margaret when he got his Mistress pregnant!

At her funeral, to represent The Queen (Elizabeth II) Lady Sarah Chatto, Princess Margaret's daughter stood in. 

Lady Elizabeth was known for her zippered lips, but another of Princess Margaret's Ladies In Waiting, Anne Glenconner, eventually wrote a book about her times with the Princess who was known to have her "Royal Moments," was a hard partier, and whose marriage to the First Lord Snowden was chaotic.


Anne Glenconner was in an awful marriage herself. I have not read this book but.... Here's a great interview with Glenconner:  THE GUARDIAN : I'M NO SNOWFLAKE : INTERVIEW WITH ANNE GLENCONNER by Hadley Freeman

She mentions that she married a man of a slightly lower rank in the aristocracy.

EXCERPT: Glenconner's family has a long relationship with the royal family; her paternal grandmother was Edward VIII's mistress and her father was equerry to George VI.  Glenconner was Princess Margaret;s devoted lady-in-waiting for more than 30 years, and this is what spurred her into writing her book, as she was horrified by a recent biography about the princess, which she describes as "that horrible book, we won't mention the name of the somebody...
  
According to an October 5, 2018 article in RoyalCentraco.uk by Charlie Proctor, Lady Elizabeth was also a godmother to Princess Margaret's son, who is the current 2nd Lord Snowden. 

In a Daily Mail UK article dated June 29, 2007 entitled Very Contrary Princess - Why Did The Charming Margaret Turn Into The Most Unpopular Royal by Tim Heald, there is this:

EXCERPT:

Above all, she (Margaret) craved kitchen meals and intelligent small-talk. What she particularly loathed were occasions when a hostess would suddenly announce she had friends coming in for drinks or a meal; then the Princess would feel correctly that she was being exploited and "shown off."

"The people who knew her best were devoted to her," said Lady Elizabeth Cavendish, daughter of the Duke of Devonshire. "She was, I think, the most loyal person I have ever met and, of course, to me a wonderful friend."

"I know that no matter what I had done, she would have been there."

But even those who saw the Princess often acknowledged that she could be contrary and contradictory.

DAILY MAIL UK - MARGARET UNPOPULAR ROYAL

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Besides the linked to articles, reference for this post also came from Hello Magazine, an April 19, 2020 article called Why The Queens Ladies In Waiting Do Not Receive a Salary by Gemma Strong.

Thursday, September 2, 2021

LADY ELIZABETH GEORGIANA ALICE CAVENDISH : NMNK MISTRESS OF POET LAUREATE JOHN BETJEMAN

 LADY ELIZABETH GEORGIANA ALICE CAVENDISH

1926-2018

One of the few public photos of Sir John Betjeman and his Mistress
Lady Elizabeth Cavendish
(pinterest)

I know how much my readers love to know about Modern Mistresses, especially more obscure women from the peerage in the British Isles. Perhaps if you're a member of this elite group you know all the inside information, but Lady Elizabeth Georgiana Alive Cavendish is not a famous woman (or an infamous one) and so I was surprised to know that her arrangement was remarked upon in multiple obituaries and being a Mistress didn't stop her from being acknowledged or rewarded for her accomplishments.

According to numerous accounts, Lady Elizabeth grew up as friends with both Princess Elizabeth (The Queen Elizabeth II) and the Queen's sister, Princess Margaret. She became one of Princess Margaret's Ladies In Waiting from the late 1940's until Margaret's death in 2002 - a long assignment. (As we may have been informed by the series The Crown, Margaret lived an unconventional life and so I can guess that Lady Elizabeth was in the know about Margaret's wild times.) Sometimes we are shocked by just how unconventional Royals and the Peerage can be, perhaps because we think they are prim and proper people being English and in such high standing but maybe they just do as they do knowing theirs is an insular world.

According to The Times - UK, obituary, Lady Elizabeth was already waiting on Margaret at the age of twenty-five when in 1951 she went to a dinner party in London hosted by Lady Pamela Berry and there met John Betjeman, who was not yet Poet Laureate. She was gawky tall and shy, perhaps uncomfortable, and didn't speak to him at all that night and yet some connection must have been made, because that was the start of something. 

Betjeman, born in 1906, twenty years older than she, and married since 1933 to the Honorable Penelope Chetwode, had attended Oxford College but did not graduate. He was involved in World War II but perhaps in intelligence. The couple had a son and a daughter together, in 1937, Paul, and in 1942, Candida.

As if to explain why there was never a divorce, a Wiki on Betjeman, which was highly referenced, especially in regards to his literary accomplishments, states that Penelope "became a Catholic in 1948" I note just a couple years before this meeting. No divorce for Catholics but was that it? There are also major mentions that he was bisexual, at least in his imagination. So Interestingly one wonders why then so many of Lady Elizabeth's obit's have the words "Lover, Companion, and Carer." Despite such rumors he was a High Anglican and even a Church Warden for a while.

Since John Betjeman died in 1984, and they met in 1951, my math tells me that Elizabeth and John were in each other's lives for thirty-three years! The obituary in The Telegraph calls her "The Other Wife" acknowledging that Betjeman had a legal wife and a Mistress and she reportedly was at his bedside when he died. She was a devoted to him. According to a YouTube video from poster Dead Obituary, Betjeman's daughter Candida Lycett Green called Lady Elizabeth her father's "beloved other wife." Apparently he himself referred to Lady Elizabeth as his "London Wife."

Do you know what NMNK stands for?  It means Never Married No Kids. Why does it seem so rare for a Mistress to have never had a child? Well, the description fits Lady Elizabeth. She was satisfied to have this relationship with this man and endured in it and was there at his death bed.

Perhaps Lady Elizabeth grew up knowing about Georgiana Spencer Cavendish, an ancestor who allowed her husband another woman in their home where they lived together sharing a man for many years. (I'll post about the film made about that love triangle latter this month.)

According to multiple sources, Lady Elizabeth achieved some recognition for her service to Princess Margaret. In 1976 she was made a Lieutenant of the Royal Victorian Order. My research reveals that this is an order of knighthood that Queen Victoria established in 1896 to recognize someone's personal service to the Queen or members of the Monarchy.  Twenty years later Lady Elizabeth became a Commander in the same Order. She was also a Justice of the Peace in the city of London and served in the juvenile and adult courts. It's my guess that the once shy young woman was not shy for long.

Just to further help you tie this noblewoman into other posts here at Mistress Manifesto BlogSpot, our Mistresses of the Month, Kathleen "Kick" Kennedy, an older sister of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, who I covered in March 2017 married into her family.
Elizabeth's brother Andrew became the 11th Duke of Devonshire and her brother William, Marquess of Hartington is the one who married Kick after a very long wait due to their religious differences. He was killed during World War II making her a young widow. If interested in reading about Kick, who after the death of her husband went back to England and became a Mistress anticipating marriage, go into that month's archives or search for her within the blog!

While an unpaid Lady In Waiting and never married, the discreet Lady Elizabeth refused to talk about her relationship, which was an Open Secret.  According to a September 18, 2018 article by Sebastian Shakespeare in Daily Mail UK entitled "Betjemen's Mistress Leaves 10 Million (pounds) To Adopted Nieces After Dying Age 92," John's wife Penelope found out about his "London Wife" in 1973 when she moved a few blocks away.

And according to that writer, all Lady Elizabeth's correspondence is held by Chatsworth House Trust, as Chatsworth House is where she grew up, and it will be held there sealed for many years hence. 

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References for this months posts include the aforementioned as well as genealogy sites, wiki's, numerous articles in the British press - newspapers, YouTube videos, and some specifically mentioned references. One article that I had the damnest time trying to read because the teaser required a subscription was in the Telegraph.co.uk obituaries on September 18 2018. I can't link to it for you because you too will require a subscription to read it.  The Telegraph seemed to be quite interested in Lady Elizabeth.
 
Thanks for reading!