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I always try to pick music that goes with the Mistress, the time, and the place, for my monthly subject, but as I was thinking strongly of the McCandless Family, this song came on in the store where I was shopping and I think it is a perfect one. My wish for them all is for healing. And I think maybe Chris' message for Carine from the spirit world, that he is with her, is manifest, in her daughter.
Showing posts with label Walt McCandless. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Walt McCandless. Show all posts
Tuesday, July 28, 2015
Monday, July 27, 2015
THE DEBATE OVER WHY CHRIS MC CANDELES DIED RAGES ON
THE NEW YORKER - HOW CHRIS MC CANDLESS DIED
by Jon Krakauer from September 2013
EXCERPT
"I’ve received thousands of letters from people who admire McCandless for his rejection of conformity and materialism in order to discover what was authentic and what was not, to test himself, to experience the raw throb of life without a safety net. But I’ve also received plenty of mail from people who think he was an idiot who came to grief because he was arrogant, woefully unprepared, mentally unbalanced, and possibly suicidal. Most of these detractors believe my book glorifies a senseless death."
by Jon Krakauer from September 2013
EXCERPT
"I’ve received thousands of letters from people who admire McCandless for his rejection of conformity and materialism in order to discover what was authentic and what was not, to test himself, to experience the raw throb of life without a safety net. But I’ve also received plenty of mail from people who think he was an idiot who came to grief because he was arrogant, woefully unprepared, mentally unbalanced, and possibly suicidal. Most of these detractors believe my book glorifies a senseless death."
Thursday, July 16, 2015
WALT HAS TWO FAMILIES - and HE'S NOT A BIGAMIST...
BECAUSE HE'S NOT LEGALLY MARRIED TO TWO WOMEN AT THE SAME TIME... so I wonder when it will become legal here in the United States to be married to more than one person at a time! Because same sex marriage was only the beginning of a revolution in ideas about what makes marriage. Missy
Excerpt and Notes from THE WILD TRUTH by Carine McCandless
"My father continued to tell Marcia all about my mom; Marcia says when he left her for two weeks out of every month, she was made to understand that he was staying with his second family. He was proud of having produced so many offspring and saw no reason to hide his other children from her. In fact he envisioned us all eventually living together under one roof, and by way of convincing Marcia, pointed out that my mother made a fantastic pot roast - Marcia's least successful culinary endeavor - but he said that Marcia's spaghetti sauce was much better. Marcia remembers she quipped "I didn't know you were a Mormon Fundamentalist, Walt."
Walt kept a special phone line in his home office with Marcia reserved for calls to and from Billie.
Excerpt and Notes from THE WILD TRUTH by Carine McCandless
"My father continued to tell Marcia all about my mom; Marcia says when he left her for two weeks out of every month, she was made to understand that he was staying with his second family. He was proud of having produced so many offspring and saw no reason to hide his other children from her. In fact he envisioned us all eventually living together under one roof, and by way of convincing Marcia, pointed out that my mother made a fantastic pot roast - Marcia's least successful culinary endeavor - but he said that Marcia's spaghetti sauce was much better. Marcia remembers she quipped "I didn't know you were a Mormon Fundamentalist, Walt."
Walt kept a special phone line in his home office with Marcia reserved for calls to and from Billie.
Saturday, July 11, 2015
THE MARCIA - BILLIE - WALT LOVE TRIANGLE
Excerpts and Notes from THE WILD TRUTH by Carine McCandless
"Back in the early 1960's before I was born, my mother was a beautiful young dance student, fresh out of high school. She left the small town of Iron Mountain, Michigan, for the dream life of affluence and prestige she believed awaited her in sunny Los Angeles. " (Page 18.)
(Billie grew up in a tiny house with 6 children sharing one bedroom with a father who was chronically critical and verbally abusive to her mother, though kind and gentle when speaking to children.*)
(Pages 37-38) Walt and his siblings came from a volatile home.*
"And I can imagine my mother as my father must have seen her. She was easy to fall in love with. She was a gifted homemaker who could resurrect a dining room table someone else had discarded on the street and serve up a delicious and healthy casserole concocted from a week's worth of leftovers. When she ice skated, her dance background showed in every elegant move of her wrist or smooth turn across the ice. When my parents danced together, my father's movements became graceful, too, because she led him so well. She was refined, she was determined, and she was unfailingly loyal - through toward the wrong person. (Carine's opinion - Page 20.)
I'd like to think they knew better. I'd like to think they tried to stop themselves Eight years older and well aware of his influence, Walt took immediate advantage. Billie - old enough to know it was wrong yet youthful enough to let desire override her conscience - willingly pursued the affair. Walt convinced her that he was going to leave his wife, Marcia, as soon as the time was right. The problem, he told Bille, was that Marcia refused to grant him a divorce. He went so far as to keep a separate apartment for a while, to convince Billie he was trying to extricate himself from the marriage. But in truth, Walt had no intention of divorcing Marcia - or of letting Marcia ever divorce him."
(*Walt and Marsha started dating when they were 17. Although Carine doesn't say they were members of LDS, she does say the following on Page 21...)
"Marcia had been reared with the values of her community, which had been founded as a sort of utopia, a place where all who breathe its air would shun alcohol worship together, and raise strong families. She had every reason to believe her childhood sweetheart wanted just what she did, so when her father asked her on her wedding day if she really wanted to go through with it, she said yes
By the time Walt and Billie began their relationship, however, Marcia had grown weary of Walt's history of indiscretions. One day while tending to Walt's dry cleaning, she found Billie's ID in on of his jacket pockets. When she voiced her suspicious, she remembers they were met with a vile mix or aspersions, threats and violence - all easily anticipated by Marcia and her three young children, Sam, Stacy, and Shawna. Another daughter, Shelly, had just been born. The family life Marcia envisioned had become a distant dream.
****
*Missy here.
In this passage we learn that Marcia knows her marriage to Walt is a bad one. Yet, she continued to have children with him. It is unsaid, but I have to wonder, if things were so bad, WHY did this couple have more children? What am I to think. That they refused to use contraception even though this was clearly not a situation to bring more children into? That maybe Walt refused to let Marcia use contraception? That continued sex and continued procreation were evidence of commitment to the horrible marriage? Through this book Carine speaks for herself, for Chris, and for her siblings, and she attempts to reveal her parents and their craziness, but Marcia remains an enigma.
"Back in the early 1960's before I was born, my mother was a beautiful young dance student, fresh out of high school. She left the small town of Iron Mountain, Michigan, for the dream life of affluence and prestige she believed awaited her in sunny Los Angeles. " (Page 18.)
(Billie grew up in a tiny house with 6 children sharing one bedroom with a father who was chronically critical and verbally abusive to her mother, though kind and gentle when speaking to children.*)
(Pages 37-38) Walt and his siblings came from a volatile home.*
"And I can imagine my mother as my father must have seen her. She was easy to fall in love with. She was a gifted homemaker who could resurrect a dining room table someone else had discarded on the street and serve up a delicious and healthy casserole concocted from a week's worth of leftovers. When she ice skated, her dance background showed in every elegant move of her wrist or smooth turn across the ice. When my parents danced together, my father's movements became graceful, too, because she led him so well. She was refined, she was determined, and she was unfailingly loyal - through toward the wrong person. (Carine's opinion - Page 20.)
I'd like to think they knew better. I'd like to think they tried to stop themselves Eight years older and well aware of his influence, Walt took immediate advantage. Billie - old enough to know it was wrong yet youthful enough to let desire override her conscience - willingly pursued the affair. Walt convinced her that he was going to leave his wife, Marcia, as soon as the time was right. The problem, he told Bille, was that Marcia refused to grant him a divorce. He went so far as to keep a separate apartment for a while, to convince Billie he was trying to extricate himself from the marriage. But in truth, Walt had no intention of divorcing Marcia - or of letting Marcia ever divorce him."
(*Walt and Marsha started dating when they were 17. Although Carine doesn't say they were members of LDS, she does say the following on Page 21...)
"Marcia had been reared with the values of her community, which had been founded as a sort of utopia, a place where all who breathe its air would shun alcohol worship together, and raise strong families. She had every reason to believe her childhood sweetheart wanted just what she did, so when her father asked her on her wedding day if she really wanted to go through with it, she said yes
By the time Walt and Billie began their relationship, however, Marcia had grown weary of Walt's history of indiscretions. One day while tending to Walt's dry cleaning, she found Billie's ID in on of his jacket pockets. When she voiced her suspicious, she remembers they were met with a vile mix or aspersions, threats and violence - all easily anticipated by Marcia and her three young children, Sam, Stacy, and Shawna. Another daughter, Shelly, had just been born. The family life Marcia envisioned had become a distant dream.
****
*Missy here.
In this passage we learn that Marcia knows her marriage to Walt is a bad one. Yet, she continued to have children with him. It is unsaid, but I have to wonder, if things were so bad, WHY did this couple have more children? What am I to think. That they refused to use contraception even though this was clearly not a situation to bring more children into? That maybe Walt refused to let Marcia use contraception? That continued sex and continued procreation were evidence of commitment to the horrible marriage? Through this book Carine speaks for herself, for Chris, and for her siblings, and she attempts to reveal her parents and their craziness, but Marcia remains an enigma.
Tuesday, July 7, 2015
BILLIE BECOMES WALT'S ACCOMPLICE - THEY LIE TO COVER THEIR ROMANTIC TRIANGLE
Excerpts and notes from THE WILD TRUTH by Carine McCandless
Carine states that Walt did not want a divorce from Marcia and gives evidence for this in that he resorted to physical violence to control her.*
Billie's lies included saying Shannon (a son Walt had with Marcia) had been held back a grade to avoid that he and Chris were the same age. "Our parents would claim that one or more of us did not biologically belong to the family - usually to explain Quinn." Quinn was incriminating evidence. (Quinn also was the only child Marcia and Walt had whose given name didn't start with an S.*) (Page 26.)
"Eight children were extras in the show with limited access to the script. We would all have to unravel the mystery on our own time." (Page 28.) I like Carine's way with words here*
(Pages 24-25)
Marcia also threatened to file for divorce more than once. On one of Marcia's divorce filings she listed Walt's address as the house he shared with Billie, so when the papers were served, that's when Billie saw the name Quinn - a surprise to her.
"Dad insisted Quinn wasn't his."
Shortly before she filed for divorce Walt beat Marcia badly and a 13 year old child called the police. The police just asked him to leave the house.
About 1972 Marcia got her divorce and took her six children with Walt back to their home town.
* Notes by Missy
Carine states that Walt did not want a divorce from Marcia and gives evidence for this in that he resorted to physical violence to control her.*
Billie's lies included saying Shannon (a son Walt had with Marcia) had been held back a grade to avoid that he and Chris were the same age. "Our parents would claim that one or more of us did not biologically belong to the family - usually to explain Quinn." Quinn was incriminating evidence. (Quinn also was the only child Marcia and Walt had whose given name didn't start with an S.*) (Page 26.)
"Eight children were extras in the show with limited access to the script. We would all have to unravel the mystery on our own time." (Page 28.) I like Carine's way with words here*
(Pages 24-25)
Marcia also threatened to file for divorce more than once. On one of Marcia's divorce filings she listed Walt's address as the house he shared with Billie, so when the papers were served, that's when Billie saw the name Quinn - a surprise to her.
"Dad insisted Quinn wasn't his."
Shortly before she filed for divorce Walt beat Marcia badly and a 13 year old child called the police. The police just asked him to leave the house.
About 1972 Marcia got her divorce and took her six children with Walt back to their home town.
* Notes by Missy
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